Legislature(2013 - 2014)SENATE FINANCE 532

04/14/2014 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE


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= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ HB 239 EXTEND BOARD OF EXAMINERS IN OPTOMETRY TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ HB 240 EXTEND BOARD OF CHIROPRACTIC EXAMINERS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ HB 241 EXTEND BOARD OF MARITAL & FAMILY THERAPY TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ HB 242 EXTEND PT & OCCUPATIONAL THERAPY BOARD TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ HB 234 EXTEND REGULATORY COMMISSION OF ALASKA TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ HB 210 SCHOOLS: RESTRAINT, SECLUSION, CRISIS TRG TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ HB 378 MOTOR VEHICLES: REGISTRATION, COMMERCIAL TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ HB 75 CONTRIBUTION FROM PFD: AUDITS; UNIVERSITY TELECONFERENCED
Scheduled But Not Heard
+= SB 220 PERS/TRS STATE CONTRIBUTIONS TELECONFERENCED
Scheduled But Not Heard
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
HOUSE BILL NO. 239                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act extending the termination date of the Board of                                                                     
     Examiners in Optometry; and providing for an effective                                                                     
     date."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:11:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LORA  REINBOLD, explained  that HB  239 would                                                                    
extend the Board of Examiners  in Optometry through June 30,                                                                    
2022.  The  Division  of   Legislative  audit  reviewed  the                                                                    
activities  of  the board  and  concluded  that the  board's                                                                    
termination  date  should  be extended  the  full  8  years.                                                                    
Without  the extension  optometry  licensing would  continue                                                                    
under the direction  of the division, rather  than the board                                                                    
and all  costs associated  with licensing would  continue to                                                                    
be incurred  by the division.  She explained that  the board                                                                    
adopted  regulations   to  carry  out  laws   governing  the                                                                    
practice  of optometry  in  Alaska;  making final  licensing                                                                    
decisions  and taking  disciplinary  action when  necessary.                                                                    
The board consisted  of 4 optometrists and  1 public member.                                                                    
She spoke to the fiscal note  reflected that the board had a                                                                    
current  cumulative deficit  of  $44,755.  Fees were  raised                                                                    
during  the  last  biennium  and a  fee  analysis  would  be                                                                    
conducted in  spring of 2014  in order to  determine whether                                                                    
the fees needed adjustment.  She stated that licensees would                                                                    
renew in December 2014 and  any fee adjustments would go out                                                                    
for public comment in summer  2015. She noted that the board                                                                    
was working  in the  best interest of  the state  to promote                                                                    
health, welfare and safety of Alaskans.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:13:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer  queried the deficit reflected  in the fiscal                                                                    
note.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:14:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Fairclough  announced that there was  an issue of                                                                    
indirect  costs of  investigations,  spread  across all  the                                                                    
professional licensing  boards. She stated the  division had                                                                    
come before Legislative Budget and  Audit (LB&A) in the past                                                                    
requesting help  with accounting  issues, which  resulted in                                                                    
LB&A  infusing approximately  $1  million in  an attempt  to                                                                    
assist the  various boards with  large deficits.  She shared                                                                    
that the deficit  would be seen in fiscal notes  for many of                                                                    
the boards and  that LB&A was working to  understand how the                                                                    
department  was  spreading  costs.  She  said  that  $64  of                                                                    
indirect cost was being spread  to every licensee across the                                                                    
state and  the subcommittee of  LB&A had yet to  receive the                                                                    
necessary information to justify  the spread. She noted that                                                                    
cost  spreading among  licensing  boards  was currently  not                                                                    
proportionate.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:16:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Reinbold  noted  that   a  report  from  the                                                                    
Legislative  Budget  and  Audit Committee  (LB&A)  (copy  on                                                                    
file) that outlined  the specifics could be  found in member                                                                    
packets.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:16:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson queried why  the investigation driven increase                                                                    
in licensing  fees should  be extended  out 8  years, rather                                                                    
than a shorter  amount that would reign  in the expenditures                                                                    
more quickly.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Reinbold   deferred  the  question   to  the                                                                    
Division of Legislative Audit.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  asked how many optometrists  were licensed in                                                                    
the  state, and  of  those how  many  had been  investigated                                                                    
under licensing action.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:17:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CRYSTAL  KOENEMAN,  STAFF,   REPRESENTATIVE  LORA  REINBOLD,                                                                    
deferred to  Department of Commerce, Community  and Economic                                                                    
Development.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:17:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson asked whether  other healthcare providers were                                                                    
governed by the optometrist board.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Reinbold  replied that the board  was limited                                                                    
to the scope of optometry.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:18:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KRIS  CURTIS,  DIRECTOR,   DIVISION  OF  LEGISLATIVE  AUDIT,                                                                    
explained that  the division had  conducted a review  of the                                                                    
Board  of Examiners  in Optometry  to determine  whether the                                                                    
public  interest  was being  served  and  whether the  board                                                                    
should be  extended. The division  concluded that  the board                                                                    
was  serving the  public interest  by effectively  licensing                                                                    
and  regulating   optometrists  and  recommended   that  the                                                                    
board's termination  date be extended  the maximum  8 years,                                                                    
June 30, 2022.  The division made one  recommendation to the                                                                    
Director  of  the  Division of  Corporations,  Business  and                                                                    
Professional Licensing to continue  efforts to improve their                                                                    
case  management system  integrity and  confidentiality. She                                                                    
furthered  that in  past  years  detailed information  about                                                                    
investigations  had been  included in  audits, but  that the                                                                    
practice had  been disregarded  because the  case management                                                                    
system was  not reliable.  The division  had been  unable to                                                                    
pull  summary  investigative   information  because  certain                                                                    
information  in the  system was  unreliable. She  noted that                                                                    
Page  12   of  the  audit  provided   information  on  board                                                                    
expenditures  and  revenues.  The licensing  fees  had  been                                                                    
reduced  from  $420  to  $200 in  FY07.  That  decrease  had                                                                    
effectively  reduced any  available  surplus  at that  time.                                                                    
Licensing fees  had not been  adjusted for the  FY11 renewal                                                                    
period which  had contributed to  a continuing  deficit. She                                                                    
stated that she  could not speak to the reason  why the fees                                                                    
had not been increased.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:21:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson wondered whether the  licensing fee had been a                                                                    
factor in  whether the number  of optometrists in  the state                                                                    
was increasing or decreasing.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Curtis  directed committee attention  to page  14, which                                                                    
listed the  information on the licensees.  From FY06 through                                                                    
FY12 the board had issued new licenses to 85 applicants.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:21:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson asked how many  licenses were withdrawn or not                                                                    
renewed.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Curtis  replied that the  information was  not presented                                                                    
in the  report. She  said that  a count  as of  February 28,                                                                    
2013  there were  174 licensed  optometrists in  Alaska. She                                                                    
noted  the  chart  in  the report  that  allocated  the  new                                                                    
licenses by  fiscal year.  She said that  the impact  of the                                                                    
setting  of fees  on the  surplus and  deficit was  examined                                                                    
every  time  the  division performed  a  sunset  audit.  The                                                                    
division did not  issue a recommendation to  adjust fees due                                                                    
to the fact  that they had been adjusted for  the FY13 cycle                                                                    
and that that  period was not over;  therefore, the division                                                                    
could not  gauge how effective  the increase in fees  was to                                                                    
address the deficit.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:22:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson noted that there  were only 174 licensees that                                                                    
were  regulated by  the  board and  pointed  out that  other                                                                    
boards in  the state dealt with  several thousand licensees.                                                                    
He wondered whether the optometrist  board could be absorbed                                                                    
by one of the larger boards.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Curtis replied that the  decision would be a policy call                                                                    
that would not be made by the division.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:23:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Fairclough  stated that  the issue of  cost being                                                                    
spread over a  small group of people would  arise during all                                                                    
of  the  licensing  hearings.  She   said  that  the  policy                                                                    
discussion  at  LB&A  concerned what  should  be  done  with                                                                    
investigations and the cost distribution.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Curtis added that in 1992  the governor had a task force                                                                    
to  examine boards  and commissions,  and out  of that  task                                                                    
force  the structure  of allocating  investigative costs  to                                                                    
the  board  came  about.  She   felt  that  after  20  years                                                                    
structure should be revisited.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:25:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer asked how much the fees for the board were.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SARA   CHAMBERS,   DIRECTOR,   DIVISION   OF   CORPORATIONS,                                                                    
BUSINESS,   AND   PROFESSIONAL  LICENSING,   DEPARTMENT   OF                                                                    
COMMERCE,  COMMUNITY  AND  ECONOMIC  DEVELOPMENT,  responded                                                                    
that the fees were raised in 2013 to $400.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:25:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer  asked if  the amount  was adequate  to cover                                                                    
costs going into the future.                                                                                                    
Ms.  Chambers responded  that the  department analyzed  fees                                                                    
according   to   statutory   requirements   and   with   the                                                                    
partnership  of  the  board   with  the  goal  of  balancing                                                                    
approximate  expenditures and  revenues.  She believed  that                                                                    
$400 was  a reasonable amount to  anticipate covering future                                                                    
deficit.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:27:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer OPENED public testimony.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer CLOSED public testimony.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
HB  239  was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB220 Public Testimony - Combs.msg SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
SB 220
SB220 Public Testimony - Rushing.msg SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
SB 220
SB220 PERSTRS Funding - Pearce.msg SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
SB 220
Sb220 Unfunded Liability - Trumbower.msg SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
SB 220
SB220 - Yes Public Testimony - Mohn.msg SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
SB 220
SB220 Public Testimony - Haskins.msg SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
SB 220
SB220 Public Testimony - Tenney.msg SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
SB 220
SB220 SENATE BILL Public Testimony - Ha'o.msg SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
SB 220
SB220 Please support the Unfunded State Pension Liability and HB 385 and SB220 - Holzapfel.msg SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 385
SB 220
Sb220 Unfunded Liability - HB385 - Jordan.msg SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 385
SB 220
SB220 Public Testimony - McGowan.msg SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
SB 220
SB220 In support of HB 385 and SB220 - Klawunder.msg SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 385
SB 220
SB220 Please Support SB 220 - Correction - Super.msg SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
SB 220
SB220 - Hb 385 Public Testimony - Campbell.msg SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 385
SB 220
SB220 - HB 385 Public Testimony - Miller.msg SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 385
SB 220
SB220 - HB 385 Public Testimony - Nault.msg SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 385
SB 220
SB 220 Public Testimony - Landstrom.msg SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
SB 220
SB220 Public Testimony - Cutilletta.pdf SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
SB 220
HB75 Public Testimony - Stewart.msg SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 75
HB75 Please support HB75 changes to Pick Click Give - DeCherney.msg SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 75
HB 75 Public Testimony - Morse.msg SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 75
HB75 Public Testimony - Tarver.msg SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 75
HB239 Sponsor Statement.pdf SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 239
HB239 Supporting Documents-Legislative Audit Recommendations.pdf SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 239
HB240 Supporting Documents-Legislative Audit Recommendations.pdf SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 240
HB240 Sponsor Statement.pdf SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 240
HB241 Sponsor Statement.pdf SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 241
HB241 Supporting Documents-Legislative Audit Recommendations.pdf SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 241
HB242 Sponsor Statement.pdf SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 242
HB242 Supporting Documents-Legislative Audit Recommendations.pdf SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 242
HB 234 - Support Letter-AML.pdf SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 234
HB 234 - Sponsor Statement.pdf SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 234
HB 234 - Supporting Document RCA Sunset Audit 2013.pdf SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 234
HB 234 - Supporting Document RCA-Summary of Efforts 01-2014.pdf SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 234
HB 210-Updated Sectional Summary.pdf SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 210
House Bill 210-Explanation of Changes from Version E to Version B.pdf SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 210
HB 210 Supporting Document-DLC Letter of Support.pdf SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 210
House Bill 210-Explanation of Changes from Version Y to E.pdf SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 210
House Bill 210-Updated Sponsor Statement.pdf SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 210
HB 378 Sectional Analysis Ver P.pdf SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 378
HB 378 diffs ver N to ver O.pdf SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 378
HB 378 Sponsor Statement ver P.pdf SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 378
HB378 Hearing request SFIN 4-10-14.pdf SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 378
HB378 Support Letter Thompson.pdf SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 378
HB 75-Summary of Changes.pdf SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 75
HB 75 Sectional Analysis.pdf SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 75
HB 75-Pick.Click.Give. Application.pdf SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 75
HB 75-About Pick.Click.Give..pdf SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 75
HB 75-Alaska Statute 43.23.062.pdf SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 75
HB 75-Sponsor Statement.pdf SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 75
HB 75-Letters of Support.pdf SFIN 4/14/2014 9:00:00 AM
HB 75